Moving threads from old forum

[kcortez]

Since Nate has announced plans to shut down the old Yuku/Fancorps forums perhaps we should create a strategy for moving old - valuable threads over here.

I for one would hate to see all of Van's original reviews/thoughts go missing. Perhaps one thread per show review? One thread of all Van's reviews?

Sadly, that's a copy/paste effort but one that I think is worthwhile. Volunteers? Thoughts?

[Snowbird]

I agree that it's worthwhile, and would volunteer to help with the effort - Van's our unofficial historian and I personally think his wonderful descriptive reviews should be an accessible archive for fans both new and old to refer too and to share in this Crazy Parade of history with this band.

[malloryf]

I would be up to copy/paste a few nights of my life away for this effort. I too think it'd be a worthwhile and definitely time well spent. Just let me know what you'd like me to do!

[kcortez]

Here's what I would do

- Use the "Shows Discussion" forum
- Use the Show Archive page for reference : http://www.gracepotter.com/shows/show-archive/
- You'll want some consistency so create a thread that has the title "DD/MM/YY - The Venue - The City"
- Copy/Paste at will
- The real question is, who does what? I would reference Van's posts over on the old Yuku forum to find what to post. http://gracepotterandthenocturnalsforum.yuku.com/forums/65
- I would solicit volunteers for Month/Year so ask the question - who wants to volunteer for Jan/Feb/Mar 2009 for example
- Lather/Rinse/Repeat
- Of course, someone who isn't me needs to organize the volunteers

[toofarnorth]

KC, do you still want set lists moved to the setlist.fm site ?

I made an excel list of the GPN shows archive when started adding to that site quite a while ago and it does help a lot. Have some free time this week and was going to get back to adding the other shows I can find on the fancorps, yuku and archive.org sites.

Should I still go ahead with that project ?

[joester]

toofarnorth -
you should definitly continue your work on (what should it be called: NocturnalBase?) -
Van's show reports are tremendous re-caps of each (the drive, sights, dining, backstage and streetside moments) and every effort to preserve those should be made - and maybe added to the setlist whenever possible - maybe a hotlink?
pictures, photos of setlists, etc could also maybe be linked in the future to each show - I know that makes the database that much larger, just thinking of what would be fun and interesting to be able go back and re-visit.
yes - please save it all, somehow, someway.... :)

[kcortez]

KC, do you still want set lists moved to the setlist.fm site ?

I made an excel list of the GPN shows archive when started adding to that site quite a while ago and it does help a lot. Have some free time this week and was going to get back to adding the other shows I can find on the fancorps, yuku and archive.org sites.

Should I still go ahead with that project ?

I still think that is a fantastic idea. Hopefully, we can incorporate links to Setlists on the GP.com Show Archive page

[Wally C]

KC, how do we get to the old forum??

I'd be willing to copy all of Van's reviews then you can tell where to put them (thats a loaded question huh?)

[toofarnorth]

Hopefully, we can incorporate links to Setlists on the GP.com Show Archive page
We can put cross reference links on setlist.fm too . . . already do that when the show is on archive.org.
Links to here can be added later as a comment or added on the setlist ' page' as an info edit.


Wally . .
here's a link to the old yuku forums site . . http://gracepotterandthenocturnalsforum.yuku.com/bgracepotterandthenocturnalsforum

ETA: realized it's a pretty long link - if it breaks use this --> yuku board (http://gracepotterandthenocturnalsforum.yuku.com/bgracepotterandthenocturnalsforum)

[Snowbird]

K C seems to have given us good instructions on how to go about this - and let us know that the methodical approach will work best.

I'm all for making this happen and will be able to put in time next week to do so. As KC stated we need organization to get this done right and with many hands we can make the work light. We've already got volunteers so now the thing is to set up the organization of this project.

I'm not able to do much intensive work until monday due to family committments - but how bout we start off with this - so far I see that Wally, Mallory, Too Far North and myself are the volunteers so far - if I missed someone - get right back here and let us know! My thought is following KC's advice in that we should designate each volunteer to a portion - so - current volunteers, and those that might want to volunteer for this one - would you consider confirming back here in this post that you'd like help in this effort and then we shall have to figure out a methodology for assignments - input please - this is a great way to make a fun group effort to preserve some of the cool history that many of us have been of part, while we move on into the future ! Date ranges based on the number of volunteers makes the most sense to me - but - please anyone else with an idea jump right in . . .

[Marty DiBergi]

not sure if this helps, but here are all 500+ TH1 postings:
http://gracepotterandthenocturnalsforum.yuku.com/search/text/uid/1978337?page=1

has anyone asked him if he has them on a computer somewhere? that might be easiest...

[toofarnorth]

Snowbird . .
the GPN shows archive is broken up into Tours now . . i.e. Tour: Winter 2006, Tour: Summer 2007 , etc.

Maybe those designations would be a good way to title the threads ? . . as well as divide the work ?

For example:
Person A starts a thread for "Tour: Winter 2006 " with the first post showing a basic list of all those shows ( date, venue, city, state ).
Then hunts for recaps, set lists, etc, for each show and adds that info as replies to the thread . . keeping things in chronological order as much as possible.

Just a thought . . dissect at will :D

( btw . . big thank you to whoever did the tours breakdowns - had been guessing when entered info on setlist.fm before . . will check for any needed corrections )

[malloryf]

toofarnorth, i think that's an excellent idea to divide up the work and to title by tour.

[Snowbird]

Excellent - we have a starting point - using the Tour break points to divide the work sounds perfect - it's still to onice outside to write up assignments - but that sounds like the next step - and I'd be willing to do that later after the sun goes down, unless anyone else wants to jump in before them.

so - this is my thought how about setting up a work sign up sheet based on the Tour breaks - once done - a member can sign up for it and when complete can report back to have that assignment checked off the list - KC - can this be a sticky once we get it set - or is there a better way to keep the post on assignment and completion up front rather than buried in the thread?

[Snowbird]

Thanks Marty - this method of seaching could be a help in sifting through years - thanks for bringing this up!
not sure if this helps, but here are all 500+ TH1 postings:
http://gracepotterandthenocturnalsforum.yuku.com/search/text/uid/1978337?page=1

has anyone asked him if he has them on a computer somewhere? that might be easiest...

[Wally C]

I'm in, standing by......like snowbird, I do most of my work at night too!!

[joester]

I want to thank you all for what you're doing, I'll see how I can help as things develop.
having a few shows from 2006 on CD's, I'll check to see if the set lists have been imported into setlist.fm.
:)

[kcortez]

not sure if this helps, but here are all 500+ TH1 postings:
http://gracepotterandthenocturnalsforum.yuku.com/search/text/uid/1978337?page=1

has anyone asked him if he has them on a computer somewhere? that might be easiest...

Why isn't he volunteering to move his own posts? Just because he wrote them doesn't mean he can't write them again does it?

[toofarnorth]

Snowbird . . in case you schedule work for this weekend.
I'm leaving in the AM and will be away until sometime Sunday . . it's not a music related trip so it sort of slipped my mind - oy !
Am taking a laptop but not sure how much I'll be online. I'll work on the setlist.fm stuff if have some free time and see where you all are at when I get back.
Have a great weekend.

[Snowbird]

My apologies - family obligations and a little live delta blues down the road taking me out of town - I haven't got the work list done as promised. I'm back monday morning and will get at it first thing - Happy weekend everyone - enjoy the music, friends!

[Tedheadone]

Hmmm..just discovering this thread, thanks, folks!! Lemme know what I can do

[Wally C]

Van,

Did you post anything for HOB and Lebanon??

[Snowbird]

Please take a look at the archive thread - I've gone ahead and copied from the show archives the tour list as it reads for 2005 and used that as the start of the thread. I then added in what I believe is Van's first review from the old forum which is December 30th, 2005 as a reply.

Is this how we want to proceed - please take a look and give some feedback before we go ahead and assign 2006 - 2010 to bring us up to date.

[toofarnorth]

Snowbird . . . you're making me feel guilty - lol . . I am home again but I'm being selfish and watching Levon Helm & friends set at Mountain Jam on iClips site instead of working =]

I'm wondering if putting all the Tours' details for one year in one thread will make it so long that it will be sluggish for some people to open ?
Sadly there are still some folks stuck on dial-up because of where they live. Maybe break the years into separate threads - one for each leg, Spring, Summer, etc ?
Just a thought . . KCortez will know if it's a valid concern for this site or not.

[Snowbird]

I've been working on the moving threads today - All of 2005 is one thread as there is only one official Van review that I could pull from the old foum. I'm now onto 2006 and will break it down into seasonal tours as they appear in THIS forums show archives. I'm happy to continue on and finish 2006 and will post here when I'm done - if someone wants to volunteer and pick up for 2007 - please chime in here. Would probably be best to wait til I've finished 2006 to keep the threads clean and in order I'm thinking, but I could be wrong - comments and suggestions always welcome!

[malloryf]

I'll do 2007 - I just posted the tour list, but i'll wait until you've finished with 2006 until I go any further so we can keep it uniform.

[malloryf]

Maybe I should've waited until you've finished everything, so that they go in sequential order. I'll see if I can figure out how to delete it!

[Snowbird]

Maybe I should've waited until you've finished everything, so that they go in sequential order. I'll see if I can figure out how to delete it!

Okay Mallory - I'm done now - if you could delete the post for Spring 2007 and repost, I think that will bring the order back to sequential! Thanks for taking on the year 2007!!!

[malloryf]

Oh, no worries at all, bring it on 2007! I can't figure out how to delete it - ahhh, anyone know how to delete?

[Snowbird]

If you edit the post, it should give you the option to delete with a button in the lower right corner of the post box.

[malloryf]

I tried that method, but the delete button is not showing up - perhaps because I started that thread? I see the 'delete' button when I click on edit on a post that I make within a thread, but not on ones that I started. What do you think I should do? Just use that thread, or start a new one and disregard that empty one (and try to get an admin to delete it?)

[Snowbird]

I see what you mean, I had thought that i deleted my first post and started over, but now can't see to figure out how i did it - perhaps that function was shut off to avoid losing achived stuff. I think I would edit the post and remove the content so it's blank and send a put a request in the Q&A for an admin to delete that empty thread and start up a new one.

I'm hoping that will keep everything in chronological order, when we are all done, then I think we need to ask to have the threads locked, so that addtional posts aren't added as that would probably put them out of order again? Not sure at all about this - anyone else have ideas????

[nate]

let me know when you are done with a thread (via PM please not posting) and i'll close it

[Wally C]

Jan I was just looking over your work....do we only want to transfer threads that are about shows??
Would there be any other threads worth preserving???

[malloryf]

I have to head out of town for the weekend and I unfortunately don't think I will have internet access so I won't be able to do anymore work on the 2007 archives until late tomorrow night. If someone else wants to pick up 2007 to get it out of the way, just let me know - otherwise I'll just do it when I get home :)

[Snowbird]

It's raining here and dismal, plus I'm bored cuz can't get out and work outside, so I'll take care of 2007 mallory - you can pick up with 2008 when you get back - no worries!

Wally - we can add in other Tedheadone descriptive passages, I kind of skimmed through his posts in 2006 and the show review ones were the ones that seemed most worthy to save, if there is a historical post of his in 2006 that i missed and you feel should be added - let me know.

[Wally C]

OK I'll check 2006 this week during one of my nocturnal computere sessions........

[Snowbird]

Mallory - I just added in a quick reply on the last entry in the summer tour 2008 as there really wasn't much in the way of reviews for this awesome homecoming show - when you make your next posts for the fall, the thread should go back in place - sorry about that, meant to get past this point yesterday but ran out of time! thanks for picking up the thread on these postings, hope you have some fun doing it - i know I enjoyed the trip back in Nocturnal time!

[malloryf]

Thank you for adding that additional piece to the Waterfront show, I too noticed that there wasn't much in the way of reviews for it. Oh, I am most certainly enjoying this! Reading the reviews for shows that I've been to has sparked some great memories and reading the reviews for ones that I could not attend has given me a nice history lesson! I'll be working on this periodically during the day, whenever I have a slow part of the work-day

[malloryf]

I got up through New Years 2008 done and am going to try to do a little bit more tomorrow during the day. I won't be able to work on it at all over the weekend, so if anyone else wants to pick up where I leave off, go for it! :)

[toofarnorth]

Re: Fancorps site

I'm basically done with moving the set lists from the Fancorps site to setlist.fm.

The Set List Drop Off area has been done and double checked. Also did searches for strays. The search feature isn't very good - can't get it to retrieve all the pages it says it finds. But it did find a show in Gig Discussions forum that wasn't in the Set List Drop Off area so I am still looking through those Gig pages manually in case there are more hidden treasures.


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Jan & Mallory
couple of things
- I did see a some show recaps in the set list drop off area and in the Gig forum. Don't know if they were duplicated on the Yuku site.
Was so focused on hunting for set lists I didn't think to grab them . . or at least a link . . very sorry !. Will post links here if find any others in the rest of my ramble.

- are you copying and pasting all set list information you find on Yuku into the threads here ?
If you are, I'll work on setlist.fm from here instead of that site.

Thank you both for preserving the GPN history . . . http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/AH-ls/Quick%20use/flower.gif or maybe http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/AH-ls/Quick%20use/sud-mug-beer.gif for Mallory :)

[Snowbird]

Mallory and I were working on capturing our legendary historian's and original road warrior reviews and I believe we are now finished as well. I did take the liberty of adding in a few others that I felt should be saved for historical purposes. When KC proposed this, my understanding was that we'd be saving the literary gems, venue and local history that Van so awesomely provided in his reviews over the many years he has followed our favorite band. To that end we searched the site for posts under Van's screen name. To date, we've got all his show reviews, plus a few extras from a few other authors in there. There will be some authors that were missed based on our search criteria and I do apologize now if someone feels left out, it was not intentional, our mission as I understood it was to capture and preserve Van the Man's reviews for posterity! Set lists were not a priority, once again based on our search criteria, however Van almost always provides a set list.

Thank you for all you've done TFN - I give you credit for working in the setlist.fm website - it gave me no end of frustration when I tried to add in data a while back. Hopefully it improved!

[toofarnorth]

Snowbird , opps. . . I jumped to a conclusion I guess.
I knew you were bringing all of Van's ( our GPN Historian ) wonderful show recaps and travelogues over to preserve them.
But when I skimmed the archives here, I happened to land on a place with those other posts you mention, so wondered if the set lists had been brought over too.

No problem, Yuku search is pretty good I'll run a check of what that produces against my list for anything I don't already have. Hopefully it won't take me too long.

As to setlist.fm . . some things are working better but still has its quirks at times. It insisted on showing me as being at every show I entered one night . . wish I had been - LOL ! I fixed some as edits but was taking too long so will catch the rest when go back through and enter the Tour names. We weren't sure how to break those down at first, but would be nice to have them consistent since can search that way. .Putting the pieces of the puzzles together has been a bit of a challenge sometimes though . . I actually like doing that kind of thing but am feeling a time crunch to get things off the sites. =[


ETA: Just so you know . . . Nate has put quite a few 2009 shows up himself and done some editing to make song names consistent. Not gonna say how I found out, just that I'm always happy to give someone a chuckle. :o

[malloryf]

Does anyone know when the other sites (yuku, fancorps) will no longer be accessible? I too am thinking about the time-crunch of getting everything transferred over. Apologies for not doing anything this weekend - I will do my best to do as much transferred over as possible in my down time this week!

I love the little beermug icon, toofarnorth! I wanted to write one back to you but I can't see to find it in the icon list here! You got me, I'm a beer geek! :) Cheers!

[eric]

did someone say beer

seriously i just read every post on this tread and wanted to say THANKS to u all. that is some loyalty right there. this crew is hard core. im not familliar with the old boards and i guess now i wont have to be. happy summer solstice everyone!

[toofarnorth]

I love the little beermug icon, toofarnorth! I wanted to write one back to you but I can't see to find it in the icon list here! You got me, I'm a beer geek! :) Cheers!
I rememberd our conversation at Bull Moose on Record Store Day .. and where you were headed afterwards 'cause I was jealous - :D
(re: icon - from a photobucket folder of things I've run across & saved - shsssh - lol)

[Danado]

I didnt frequent the YUKU site much but a few times. I have heard about Tedheadone's versions of shows and how beautifully written they were. Would love to read some of you all's favorites. Please let me know which ones to check out.

[Snowbird]

Thanks for the love eric - you're showing you are hard core too, by going through and reading the archives - glad people are going there and checking out the history of the band and this group of music lovers!


did someone say beer

seriously i just read every post on this tread and wanted to say THANKS to u all. that is some loyalty right there. this crew is hard core. im not familliar with the old boards and i guess now i wont have to be. happy summer solstice everyone!

[Snowbird]

I didnt frequent the YUKU site much but a few times. I have heard about Tedheadone's versions of shows and how beautifully written they were. Would love to read some of you all's favorites. Please let me know which ones to check out.

they all are so good - but one you might enjoy is a recent one - it was Levon' Midnight Ramble in the January Winter Tour 2010 and then for one of his great travelogue type reviews with flickr links to all he experiences on the way - the Southern Swing tour hitting VA, NC and GA in one trip is pretty cool. It's in the fall tour 2009 Re: Fall Tour - 2009 - 10/22-24/2009 - Richmond VA, Wilmington, NC, Midgeville, GA

Going to the early shows in 2006 like the Barre show are entertaining reads as well as a trip down memory lane . . .

[Wally C]

Jan I just put up the list for the Spring tour 2010. I'll move stuff over tonite...no access at this time :)

Not sure how much is over there for this period but I'll move it over for ya!!

[Snowbird]

I don't believe there are ANY - if you can believe it!! Van was not expecting to get to the NE shows end of May and didn't put in any reviews, that why I didn't go any further. I have photo links for Ridgefield, Port City and Lebanon as does Nancy and Mallory has Port City, House of Blues and Lebanon - we could put those in there with any archive.org links perhaps - but there aren't any reveiws to post. Summer Tour is all current and in this forum of course.

[malloryf]

I have photos from Grace for Haiti, MASS MoCA, and Sugarloaf, should I go back in the archives and insert my links?

[Snowbird]

Mallory - I can edit the posts for Haiti and Mass Moca - that will keep them in order - I assume they are in flickr? I'll be happy to add the links in.

DONE - I added both flickr links to these existing show reviews - thanks!

[malloryf]

Sounds good to me - thanks! Here are the links:

Grace for Haiti: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malloryfinley/sets/72157623707430774/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/malloryfinley/sets/72157623707430774/)
MASS MoCA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malloryfinley/sets/72157623707430774/
Sugarloaf: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malloryfinley/sets/721576235827918
oh yeah, and I also have Record Store Day: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malloryfinley/sets/72157623818358057/

[joester]

wanted to give you hard-working Posse folks a HUGE thank you for putting this history/archives together -
great to see that Van's reviews are here for all to enjoy, as well as all the other links and stories.
51 days until Teri and I get to meet the Posse as a LARGE entourage - can't wait!!!
see y'all at the Windjammer 8/13 - did someone say BEER?

[malloryf]

I said beer! :)

[tipiboy]

I said Tequila! ;*)

[Snowbird]

MR SNAPPY himself!! ;)

[toofarnorth]

Re: Yuku board
Have no idea when it is slated for closure but . .
I found some older set lists that hadn't shown up before so now want to spend more time hunting there than I thought I would need.
Hopefully I'll have time to finish this weekend.

[toofarnorth]

Yuku's keyword(s) search didn't seem to cover the 'archive' section. Always meant to check out that area so now I have ! Found a enough setlists that hadn't shown up before to be well worth the time . . of course it would have taken a lot less time finding the setlists if I had been able to resist reading all the other bits that caught my eye. :D

Am about 98% certain I found all there was to find on Yuku, but I'll poke around some more until the site goes down.

Am going to review the entries, but if you see something you think needs correcting please let me know.
Had to do some puzzle piecing and occasionally a little guessing ... I'm more than happy to make adjustments if someone has better info.

Will be checking archive.org for entries for setlist.fm next.
Haven't forgotten about KC's suggestion for cross referencing both here too.

When everything is entered is on setlist.fm , I'll post a list of the missing shows to see if people can fill in the blanks.


ETA : remembered I forgot to leave a link http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/grace-potter-and-the-nocturnals-53d77b6d.html

[Stot]

Party on wayne...party on garth

[toofarnorth]

Snowbird..
Thanks for the MoCA add - Appreciate the help !!
You may find more of Van's . . knew some of his that didn't show up with the setlist or set list search were missing but figured they were safe over here.


I'm going through the Shows Discussion section page by page looking for posts by other people who didn't show up in the keyword search too.

This one is frustrating me . . Has anyone seen - or got - the setlists for Higher Ground 12/29 & 12/30 2006 ?? . . all I've found is 12/31. :(